Comments on: Web Architecture Roundup http://lesscode.org/2005/07/23/web-architecture-roundup/ AAaaaaahhhhrrrrrrr! Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:12:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Randy Charles Morin http://lesscode.org/2005/07/23/web-architecture-roundup/#comment-133 Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:33:34 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/07/23/web-architecture-roundup/#comment-133 <p>There's not a huge difference between "extending beyond HTTP" and "extending HTTP"? Common. Extend beyond implies using protocols other than and extend implies using protocols based on. Since SMTP is not based on HTTP, this flies directly in the face of your argument.</p> There’s not a huge difference between “extending beyond HTTP” and “extending HTTP”? Common. Extend beyond implies using protocols other than and extend implies using protocols based on. Since SMTP is not based on HTTP, this flies directly in the face of your argument.

]]> by: Randy Charles Morin http://lesscode.org/2005/07/23/web-architecture-roundup/#comment-126 Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:52:21 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/07/23/web-architecture-roundup/#comment-126 <p>Author said "extending beyond HTTP" and you translated that to "extending HTTP". The REST death march continues on.</p> Author said “extending beyond HTTP” and you translated that to “extending HTTP”. The REST death march continues on.

]]> by: AB http://lesscode.org/2005/07/23/web-architecture-roundup/#comment-124 Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:33:05 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/07/23/web-architecture-roundup/#comment-124 <p>SOAP is pretty easy, and it's not all .NET and Java, you can use SOAP in just about any programming languages and they all have a handful of frameworks that provide the tools necessary to make SOAP easy. You need tools/libraries/frameworks to work with REST too, unless you're writing XML parsing by hand.</p> <p>The good thing about SOAP is that it is just a standard way to structure a request/response. I know there are tons of other WS-stuff coming out to give web services the characteristics of things like JMS, but for most people they just want to expose a SignIn request, or a getStatus SOAP request and those are so simple, it's amazing.</p> <p>Take PHP for example, you can make a SOAP call in 2 lines with PEAR::SOAP and write a SOAP server in probably less than 10 lines of code.</p> SOAP is pretty easy, and it’s not all .NET and Java, you can use SOAP in just about any programming languages and they all have a handful of frameworks that provide the tools necessary to make SOAP easy. You need tools/libraries/frameworks to work with REST too, unless you’re writing XML parsing by hand.

The good thing about SOAP is that it is just a standard way to structure a request/response. I know there are tons of other WS-stuff coming out to give web services the characteristics of things like JMS, but for most people they just want to expose a SignIn request, or a getStatus SOAP request and those are so simple, it’s amazing.

Take PHP for example, you can make a SOAP call in 2 lines with PEAR::SOAP and write a SOAP server in probably less than 10 lines of code.

]]> by: Ryan Tomayko http://lesscode.org/2005/07/23/web-architecture-roundup/#comment-123 Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:04:54 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/07/23/web-architecture-roundup/#comment-123 <p>Great stuff, Rams. I'm listening now:</p> <p><a href="http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail571.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail571.html</a></p> Great stuff, Rams. I’m listening now:

http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail571.html

]]> by: Rams http://lesscode.org/2005/07/23/web-architecture-roundup/#comment-122 Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:07:03 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/07/23/web-architecture-roundup/#comment-122 <p>Sounds very much like what Adam Bosworth had to say, I quickly scribbled down the main points from his talk (now available at itconversations.com) here:</p> <p><a href="http://cycle-gap.blogspot.com/2005/07/adam-bosworth-on-new-data-model-for.html">http://cycle-gap.blogspot.com/2005/07/adam-bosworth-on-new-data-model-for.html</a></p> Sounds very much like what Adam Bosworth had to say, I quickly scribbled down the main points from his talk (now available at itconversations.com) here:

http://cycle-gap.blogspot.com/2005/07/adam-bosworth-on-new-data-model-for.html

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