Comments on: The Zen of Microformats http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/ AAaaaaahhhhrrrrrrr! Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:11:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Ethical Software by Alex Bunardzic » ROA and Microformats http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-7536 Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:44:10 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-7536 <p>[...] The so-called Zen of Microformats states that it only makes sense to cope with the 80% of the problem space, and leave the remaining 20% of the unsolved portion to take care of itself. [...]</p> […] The so-called Zen of Microformats states that it only makes sense to cope with the 80% of the problem space, and leave the remaining 20% of the unsolved portion to take care of itself. […]

]]> by: Breyten’s Dev Blog » Blog Archive » links for 2005-10-29 http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-1448 Sat, 08 Apr 2006 17:11:17 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-1448 <p>[...] The Zen of Microformats [@lesscode.org] &#8220;What I’ve found after lurking on the mailing list and watching the community is that when someone very close to the project says “microformats”, they are more often talking about the process that is evolving there.&#8221; (tags: microformats web programming) [...]</p> […] The Zen of Microformats [@lesscode.org] “What I’ve found after lurking on the mailing list and watching the community is that when someone very close to the project says “microformats”, they are more often talking about the process that is evolving there.” (tags: microformats web programming) […]

]]> by: microformats | weblog | AJAX vs. AHAH http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-826 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 01:00:50 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-826 <p>[...] Perhaps another could be rephrased: Why bother with parsing/transforming when you can just get the data in a presentable format? After all, we all know that less code is better. [...]</p> […] Perhaps another could be rephrased: Why bother with parsing/transforming when you can just get the data in a presentable format? After all, we all know that less code is better. […]

]]> by: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Turkey links or ‘leftovers’ for everyone http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-766 Sat, 26 Nov 2005 03:41:02 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-766 <p>[...] The Zen of Microformats [...]</p> […] The Zen of Microformats […]

]]> by: Kevin Marks http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-708 Mon, 31 Oct 2005 04:44:13 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-708 <p>Grumpy, you don't need god for that; that's what microformats are for. They need to have a reason, they have an audience (anyone with a browser), and we're building toolchains. Well over a million blogs use rel="tag"; every Avon lady has an hCard.</p> Grumpy, you don’t need god for that; that’s what microformats are for. They need to have a reason, they have an audience (anyone with a browser), and we’re building toolchains.
Well over a million blogs use rel=”tag”; every Avon lady has an hCard.

]]> by: warpedvisions.org » Blog Archive » Link: Zen of Microformats http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-706 Sun, 30 Oct 2005 17:26:07 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-706 <p>[...] October 30th, 2005 in Links The Zen of Microformats, an approach to make things work together better. [...]</p> […] October 30th, 2005 in Links The Zen of Microformats, an approach to make things work together better. […]

]]> by: ryan http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-704 Sun, 30 Oct 2005 04:33:31 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-704 <p>grumpY!-</p> <blockquote><p>do even the microformats gurus publish microformats?</p></blockquote> <p><a href="http://theryanking.com/blog/contact/" rel="nofollow">I publish microformats</a>. <a href="http://tantek.com/log/" rel="nofollow">Tantek does</a>. <a href="http://epeus.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Kevin does</a>, <a href="http://suda.co.uk/contact/" rel="nofollow">Brian does</a>, <a href="http://microformats.org/wiki/implementations" rel="nofollow">Many others do</a>, but I'm sure you knew that.</p> grumpY!-

do even the microformats gurus publish microformats?

I publish microformats. Tantek does. Kevin does, Brian does, Many others do, but I’m sure you knew that.

]]> by: grumpY! http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-701 Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:56:57 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-701 <p>oh god save us from the bored web2 gurus who dream up ad-hoc transmission standards one after the other with no useful audience, no toolchain, no REASON. take a look around the web at who is placing these formats on webpages. anyone? bueller, bueller, bueller...</p> <p>do even the microformats gurus publish microformats? </p> <p>this is web2 doing what is does best - answering questions no one is asking.</p> oh god save us from the bored web2 gurus who dream up ad-hoc transmission standards one after the other with no useful audience, no toolchain, no REASON. take a look around the web at who is placing these formats on webpages. anyone? bueller, bueller, bueller…

do even the microformats gurus publish microformats?

this is web2 doing what is does best - answering questions no one is asking.

]]> by: Jon Miller http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-700 Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:28:17 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-700 <blockquote> <p>That we don’t know anything until we’ve observed it. Respect for this simple truth leads to dramatic changes in how one builds and evaluates technology and you can see this happening to great effect (and with equally great results) in each of these communities.</p> </blockquote> <p>I agree with this principle in all innovative, novel endeavores. I also particularlly agree with the <strong>leave the 20% out</strong>, if I can phrase it that way.</p> <p>I just wanted to point out that occationally we don't need to "wait until we've observed it", when there can be proper and addequate market research done before the implementation phase. </p> <p>So, where possible, do the research and hit the 80% of the proposed features which really meet the market well. And where not possible, get something out there and "see what happens" when there is no good research to be done. Programmers, I believe, too often don't understand or think the same way as the eventual end user.</p> <p>I do hope that microformats gains more and more momentum.</p>

That we don’t know anything until we’ve observed it. Respect for this simple truth leads to dramatic changes in how one builds and evaluates technology and you can see this happening to great effect (and with equally great results) in each of these communities.

I agree with this principle in all innovative, novel endeavores. I also particularlly agree with the leave the 20% out, if I can phrase it that way.

I just wanted to point out that occationally we don’t need to “wait until we’ve observed it”, when there can be proper and addequate market research done before the implementation phase.

So, where possible, do the research and hit the 80% of the proposed features which really meet the market well. And where not possible, get something out there and “see what happens” when there is no good research to be done. Programmers, I believe, too often don’t understand or think the same way as the eventual end user.

I do hope that microformats gains more and more momentum.

]]> by: Ryan Tomayko http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-699 Fri, 28 Oct 2005 18:35:22 +0000 http://lesscode.org/2005/10/28/microformats-zen/#comment-699 <p>hxa: May <em>evolution</em> isn't a perfectly accurate term but the point is that the community is interested in an iterative, feedback dominated standardization process.</p> <p>Tantek: sure will.</p> hxa: May evolution isn’t a perfectly accurate term but the point is that the community is interested in an iterative, feedback dominated standardization process.

Tantek: sure will.

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